RECORD: Darwin, C. R. 1879.10.19-26. Radicles Beans to test Cieleski on Transmitted geotropic influence. CUL-DAR209.11.196-202. (John van Wyhe ed., 2002-. The Complete Work of Charles Darwin Online, http://darwin-online.org.uk/)

REVISION HISTORY: Transcribed by Christine Chua and edited by John van Wyhe 7.2023. RN2

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Oct 19th 1879 Radicles Beans to test Cieleski on Transmitted geotropic influence

8º a.m, 7 radicles extended horizontally over water, placed in dark on chimney Piece (Temp. 68º F to 71º) Bean & Radicles marked on under side, toward which they ought to curve through geotropism

At 10º a.m began & at 10º. 12' ended in cutting off as transversely as possible 1.5 mm of tip & suspending on pins during the 12 mm so incessantly changed in position, not much influence if any.

Vertically over water

(1) 10º 5' little curved whether originally I know not, I think geotropic — so no 3, 6 & 7

12º do

(2) 12º I think trace of curvature (2º pretty fair

(3) perhaps trace of curvature (12º do) (2º do.)

(4)

4

(5) 2º perhaps a trace of curvature in opposite direction

(6) little curved (12º certainly) (2º plainly curved)

(7) little curved (12º do) (2º plainly curved)

(4º 30' P.m. I think some decrease in previous slight curvatures.)

(7º 15 P.m no trace of curvature or subsequent geotropism left.)

(10º P.m do)

(20th 8 am do— have grown to great length)

(Conclusion doubtful: no 1, 3, 6, & 7 perhaps a little curved at 10º P.m when the tips were cut off.; the curvature afterwards increased, & in evening disappeared. — In no (2) alone curvature I believe supervened after tip cut off.)

(Damp air not so good as Peat)

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Oct 19' 1879. Radicles of Bean. (Jar C)

8º 45 a.m. Distortion from tips cut off obliquely, for length of 1.5 mm.— suspended vertically in dark over water on Study Table— They were cut off obliquely by card cut into angle of 20º [sketch] 20º & holding razor parallel to upper edge.

Length measured by 2 dot on card below.— 12 young Radicles thus treated.— 8 Radicles

Oct 20' 8º a.m. no (11) Hooked in opposition to Sachs all the rest straight! ie aft 24º

4º. 30 P.m. just the same.— added water so that tips immersed. ie aft 32º

(1) Oct 21. 8º a.m. straight (23d 9º am tip a little curved)

(25th 8º tip at right angles

(2) 21' 8º am Sachs & Lateral (22d 8º am almost rectangularly lateral) 23' 9º a.m extreme tip —now geotropic)

(3) 23d 9º am. straight & Sachs' strongly

(4) 23' 9º am. nearly straight & Sachs.

(5) 23' 9º am— tip curved abruptly

(6) 23d 9º am straight & Sachs

(7) 21' 8º am curved from Sachs. (23d 9º a.m vertically dependent, with tip a little curved.

(8) 23d 9º a.m like (7)

(9) 23d 9º am tip abruptly bowed from Sachs

(10) 23d a.m exactly like (9)

(11) 21' 8º a.m curved rectangularly from Sachs' (23d 9 am tip now geotropic

(12) 23d 9º am. almost straight, slightly sinuous, with Sachs curve

(23d 9 Am tips now thoroughly repaired & pointed.)

after 4 days

Sachs' curvature strongly pronounced, not here noticed.

(25th 8º am terminal portion of all except 2 much distorted, bent in all sorts of directions; but Frank show says in some of his cases the first cut caused curvature — 2 causes in action, unequal repair the more powerful one)

(26th. 8º. a.m wonderful distortion in comparison with other beans tried at same time without tip being cut off.)

After 3 days much distortion

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Oct 20' 1879 Radicles of Beans— Ciesielski subsequent geotropic curvature.

(A)

At 8º 8' a.m several radicles beans laid on & under damp peat with long radicles horizontal. At 9º. 38' after interval of from 1º 30' to 1.º. 37' whilst still perfectly straight tips cut off transversely for length of 1.5 mm. & now at 9º 45' placed vertically in hole in Peat: the side of bean which stood lowest with bit of skin cut off.— Some of the longest Radicles showed a mere trace of geotropism & these were all rejected.

(21' I suspect that curvature is not strictly straightened, but terminal part grow out & thus lesson curvature)

(1) (2º  ie after 4º 15' curvature radius of 70 mm.; extends for 5 mm from cut off end) (4º 30' ie after 8º 30 radius 80 mm.) (21st 8º. am. straight)

(2) 11º 45'  ie after 2º a trace of curvature (2º . another 20—30 m.m.— curvature extends to 7 mm from cut off end) (4º 30'  ie after 6º 45' almost perfectly straight) (21'. 8º a.m extreme tip tip curled rather downwards (No. 2 23d 8º .am tip bluntly conical regenerated externally no geotropism [sketch] (No (2) 22d 8º am so G. not acted

(3) 11º 45 a trace about 50 mm. (2º. P.m radius 10 mm. extends for 5 mm from cut end) 4º 30 radius 10 mm. (21' 8º am radius about 30 mm.) Has grown straighter [sketch] No 3. 22d 8º a.m    23' 8º a. do.

(4) (2º P.m .curvature 40 mm) 4º 30 radius 20 m.m. (21' 8º a.m radius about 40 mm.) 22d 8º a.m nearly straight , but still inclined in getropic direction, which it first acquired.) 23d 8º a.m. do.— thrown away.

(5) 11º 45 a trace of curvature (2º. P.m curve 20 mm— extend for 6mm from end.) 4º 35' radius 20 mm. (21' 8º a.m radius 40 mm) —(22d 8º same remark exactly as under (4) (23rd. 8º a.m. do.)

(6) (2º 0) (4º 30' 0) (21' 8º a .m do)

(7) 11º 45. a trace about 50 mm. (2º P.m curvature 15 mm— extends for 6 mm. from end.) (4º 35' radius 10

21' 8º a.m terminal portion straight, but a bend far back: 22d 8º am tip now upturned & distorted

22d 8º am terminal portion at right angles, to main radicle

(over)

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To continue to go on growing in curve, convex side most grow more than lower side [sketch]

If we consider case of radicle slightly curved & then from tip being cut off no action of Geotropism, but turgescence & growth goes on equally, the curvature wd be straightened out; & if previous turgescence was not fixed by growth radicle wd be become straight.— If the bend had been abrupt & it had been fixed by growth, & as geotropism no longer acted, then radicle [sketch] upright position would go on growing straight in inclined position direction, & this occurred in plainest manner in the next Page — If geotropism had acted former wd have been like at A [sketch] A

(The curvature in the radicle when vertically suspended being in every case from the marked side which was uppermost shows curvature not due to irregular distortion.)

(Oct 24th 8º a.m. no (2) & (7) with tips beginning to be geotropic. No (3) not so.

— 25' 8º a.m no (3) with tip ve completely vertically down (no (7) do.

Oct 28' 9º a.m no (2) tip splendidly geotropic (no 3 splendidly geotropic) (no 7 splendidly geotropic

N 2 & 7 after 4 days

3 5 days say

[calculations not transcribed]

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Oct 20' 1879 Radicles of bean Ciesielski subsequent geotropic curvature

(B)

At 8º 13' several long radicle laid horizontal on & beneath damp peat.

At 9 10º 13 9º 48'— so had laid horizontally for 1º. 35', whilst still perfectly straight & horizontal cut off transversely tips for length of 1.5 mm & now at 9º 53' placed vertically in holes in in peat. — After interval of 2º from— 1º 40' to 1. 35 to 1. 40 — Two or three of longest radicles showed trace of geotropism at tips & these rejected.—

(1) 11. 50' perhaps a trace (2º 10' slightly curved) (4º 45' radius about 20mm— length of curved part 6 mm (21' 8º 15' straight, but with kink where bend was.

(8)

(2) (0) (2º 10 very long radicle perhaps a trace) (4º 45 0) (21'. 8º 15' am 0)

(9)

(3) 11º 50' perhaps a trace (2º 10' hardly a trace) (.4º 45 (0)) (21' 8º 15. a.m 0)

(10)

(4) (0) (2º 10' (0)) (4º 45' (0)) (21' 8. 15 am. 0)

(11)

(5) 11º 53' a trace (2º. 10' radius 10mm— extends for 8t4 mm from cut off end.) 4º. 45' 10mm. curvature

(12) extends for 10 mm.) (21'. 8º 15.— terminl portion straight— has gone on growing in line of former kink. (unlabeled diagram) (22d. 8º am, now more rectangular no geotropism)

(13)

(6) (0) (2º 15' radius of 20mm— extends for 6mm from end.) (4º 45 radius 10 mm.) (21' 8º. 15' same remark applied as in (5) — gone on growing straight in oblique line (22d. 8º am rectangular no geotropism) (23d 8º a.m. do)

(14)

(7) 11. 55 a trace 70 mm.) (2º 15' 60 mm radius) (4º 50' radius 30 mm) (21' 8ºt5 15. straight with hardy a trace of a kink (22d 8º a.m a bend where there was. geotropism.) (23d 8º a.m. do. thrown away)

(15)

(8) (0) (2º 15' 0) (4º 50' perhaps a trace) (21' 8º 15 do)

(16)

(9) (0) (2º. 15' (0)) (4º 50' radius 60mm.) (21'. 8º 15'. a.m radius 60 mm.)

(over)

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no 5. geotropism after 5 — day

— 6 — aft 7 do

Oct 24th 8º a.m. no (5) no tip not yet geotropic no 6. (do.)

25 8º no (5) tip not geotropic. no. (6) beautifully geotropic

Oct 28th. 9º a.m. (no 5 now geotropic at about angle of 45º beneath horizon) no. 6. splendidly geotropic.

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Oct. 20. 8º. 40' Distortion tips cut off obliquely at top 1.5 mm length in angle of 20º.—   Jar E Red

8 long radicles suspended vertically over water with longer ones with tips in water: to see if will grow distorted.

4º 20' no distortion

(Oct. 21. 8º a.m. no (1) alone distorted bent rectangularly in line of Sachs' curvature Tips of all now in water) Aft 24º — only 1 distorted

(22d 8º a.m do— a little more irregularity in course of radicles.)

(1) 23d. 9º a.m. terminal part Bent laterally, basal part Sachs' curvature. Tips in all now covered with transparent root cap & vegetative point bluntly pointed in exactly 3 days 24' 8º a.m much distorted

(2) 23d 9º a.m tip alone bent abruptly over Bean in line of Sachs, but evidently distinct case from Sachs— 24th 8º am tip bent at right angles.

(3) 23d 9º am. Laterally oblique

(4) 23d 9º am slight curved laterally

(5) 23d 9 a.m like (4)

(6) 23d 9º a.m — nearly straight, except Sach's curvature

(7) 23d 9º a.m like (6)

(8) 23' 9º am quite straight.)

(25' 8º a.m only 2 of them distorted & tips slightly of one or 2 others.)

(Tip — 1.5 mm

Total 20— 14 more distorted. (some only mere tips)— after 3 or 4 days— by which tip which had regenerated not so dry peat dipped in water 32 hr = 14/20 cut off angle of 20º)

ad 4/6 from Frank

ad 1/4.

Total 19/30 distorted

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Oct 21— 1879 8º 30' a.m)

Beans Radicle— Jar glass tip.

Distortion— Tip of only 1 mm cut off at about angle of 20º.— tips in water (—4º 30 no effect) (22nd. 8º a.m all straight)

Oct 24' 8º. a. m no distortion— tips not yet repaired

— 25 8º Hardly any distortion.

— 26' 8º No distortion Tips seem repaired — (It is very curious how variable the results are.)

(1)

(2)

(3)

(4)

(5)

(6) (add 5 to F. only 1 sharply bent away & 2 other slightly

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Oct 26th 1879 Radicles— Beans. Ciesielski subsequent geo. transmission

at 7º 58' a.m. several quite straight youngish radicles laid horizontally on & under peat at 8º. 43 58' (ie after 45' 60'), cut off transversely tip for length of 1.5 mm. of 7 & placed vertically in peat.

(1) 4º 30' (0) / 27' 8º a.m. (0) (28th 9º a.m (0)) (29th 8º. am (0))

(2) 4º 30' perhaps a trace of g. curvature ('27' 8º am. point rectangularly distorted, no Geotropic (28' 9º certainly a little geotropism) (29th 8am. now radius of 20 mm, in direction of Geotropism, but also curved much to Sachs (30th 9º a.m tip certainly geotropic
(3) 4º. 30' a trace (27th 8º. a.m decidedly geotr. radius 30 mm.) (28th 9º. a.m almost rectangularly geotropic apex only very irregularly repaired) (29th. 8 a.m rectangularly geotropic (30th tip certainly geotropic.)
(4) 4º 30' distinct (27' 8º a.m (0)) (28th .9 am. 0) (29th 8º a.m 0)

(5) 4º 30' hardly a trace (27 8º a.m 0) (28th 9º a.m. perhaps?? a trace of geotropism) (29th 8. a.m. not geotropism except repaired extreme tip now geotropic distorted laterally)

(6) 4º. 30' a trace (27 8º. am perhaps a trace) (28' 9º am. decided. radius 30 mm.) 29th

(7) Young 4º 30 no trace (27th 8 am 0) (28º 9º a.m 0) (29th. 8a.m. tip now decidedly geotropic but may be distortion, so long afterwards.)

At 8º 58' 43' cut off tips of 5 other i.e. after 45' in same manner & placed vertically in Peat so that

(1) 4º 40' (0) (28' 9º a.m (0)) 29th 8º am (0)

(2)  ✔ 4º 40' 0) (28th 9º am. perhaps a trace of geotropm) (29th 8º a.m. I certainly think there has been trace of G.)

(3) 4º. 40' perhaps a trace of curvature (27 8º. a.m a trace) (28th 9º a.m. curvature of 30 mm) (29th do) (30' 9º a m tip now getropic, showing that slight curvature was formerly geotrp.)

(4) 4º, 40' (0) (28' 9º a.m (0)) (29th 8º a.m possibly a trace of G.

(5) 4º 40' Lower side not marked, but curved a little (28th 9º a.m. I doubt whether any curvature)


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