RECORD: Stoney, G. Johnstone. 1895.05.17. Letter to Francis Darwin, recollection of the 1860 Oxford Debate. CUL-DAR107.36-39. Edited by John van Wyhe (Darwin Online, http://darwin-online.org.uk/)

REVISION HISTORY: Transcribed by Christine Chua and edited by John van Wyhe 8.2023. RN1

NOTE: See record in the Darwin Online manuscript catalogue, enter its Identifier here. Reproduced with permission of the Syndics of Cambridge University Library and William Huxley Darwin. The volume CUL-DAR107 contains recollections of Darwin for Life and Letters and More letters 1882-1902 and Plant variation notes 1841-2.

Stoney George Johnstone, 1826-1911. He was President of Section A at the meeting of the British Association in 1879. He served as Vice-President of the Royal Society under Lord Lister, and also served upon the Council, 1898-1900. (Obituary Notice from Proceedings of The Royal Society, 1912.)

The event took place at the meeting of BAAS on 30 June 1860.


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8 Upper Hornsey Rise, N.

1895, May 17—

Dear Professor Darwin

Two episodes of the great discussion at Oxford between Professor Huxley and Bishop Wilberforce chiefly dwell in my memory— the one, the deplorable incident when Admiral Fitzroy stood up near the centre of the crowded Sheldonian Theatre, and lifting an immense Bible

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first with both and afterwards with one hand over his head, solemnly implored the audience to believe God rather than man— God who vouchsafes himself to speak to every man in that book. He urged them to reject with abhorrence the attempt to substitute human conjectures and human inventions for the explicit revelation which

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the Almighty has himself made in that book of the great events which took place when it pleased Him to create the world and all that it contained.

This is only a paraphrase of what Admiral Fitzroy said, for I do not remember the words. The silence that followed showed I think that even his own side of the Audience, who were the majority, regretted

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the incident & felt it to be out of place. By me and my companion Provost Floyd of Trinity College, Dublin, who was beside me, and I think by most of the minority of the Audience, our perception of the ignoratio elenchi that the issue sought to be raised was an ignoratio elenchi was almost [illeg] by our sense of the deplorable character of the whole incident.

The other incident was one of

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one of which & I can give a better account as the critical words were few striking and easily remembered.

The controversy was being carried on by short alternate speaker from Huxley and the Bishop.

The audience was unpleasant partisan, a majority on the Bishop's side, the minority on Huxley's, and each noisily applauding every bit made by its

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champion. There seemed to be very little impartiality.

The descent of man was the part of the subject under discussion, and was introduced by the Bishop of Oxford in a speech a little longer than usual, in which he roused up the feeling of his larger section of the audience— exercising an art which Bishop Wilberforce possessed in extraordinary perfection— to regard it as rediculous to believe and

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degrading to suppose that man was is descended from an ape!

When he sat down amid vociferous and excited applause, Huxley rose very slowly; and the first words of his rejoinder were "I had rather be the offspring of two apes, than be a man and afraid to face the truth"— an announce announcement which was followed by the counter-cheers of his minority. He then proceeded in a quietly scarifying manner, in contrast to the Bishop's

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passionate appeal, to correct the Bishop of Oxford's statements where erroneous & to reply to the parts of his argument which remained.

Believe me very truly yours

G. Johnstone Stoney.


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