RECORD: Darwin, C. R. 1868.05.06. As I know of no case where female bright whilst young & then dull, this is very strong argument. CUL-DAR84.2.8. Edited by John van Wyhe (Darwin Online, http://darwin-online.org.uk/)

REVISION HISTORY: Transcribed by Christine Chua and edited by John van Wyhe 2.2022. RN1

NOTE: See record in the Darwin Online manuscript catalogue, enter its Identifier here. Reproduced with permission of the Syndics of Cambridge University Library and William Huxley Darwin. The volumes CUL-DAR80-86 contain material for Darwin's book Descent of man (1871).

Darwin cited this in Descent 2: 171.


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May 6/68/ As I know of no case where female bright whilst young & then dull, this is very strong argument that she has not been specially rendered dull for protection whilst male has been rendered bright — I had doubt action wd probably be extremely difficult, when directed to directly opposite ends. Hence colour as transmitted to sex seems to have led to form of nest, & not the latter to the determination of colour of female sex. Very good

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Perhaps Wallace wd say that ♀ never had become beautiful but had been from first checked, but check came only at maturity. I believe that young wd sometimes show bright colours if changed, because in invariable instance when male has become bright-coloured has he has retained previous dull-colours. I can well believe that a bright-coloured male has never been made dull as sex. selection wd oppose change; but how in such groups as parrots & Humming Birds, how are the young; but in these cases, the change wd be fully as beneficial to young as to old. In Wallace's doctrine it is only during nesting season — so cannot argue from cases when both sexes have changed.


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