| Comparison with 1869 | 
  | 
 
Hybrids
 | 
Hybrids
 1866 1869 1872 |  | 
Hybrids
 1859 1860 1861 |  
  
 
and
 | 
and
 1866 1869 1872 |  | 
and
 1859 1860 1861 |  
  
 
Mongrels
 | 
Mongrels
 1866 1869 1872 |  | 
Mongrels
 1859 1860 1861 |  
  
 
compared,
 | 
compared,
 1866 1869 |  
| 
compared,
 1859 1860 |  
| 
compared
,
 1861 |  
| 
compared
,
 1872 |  
  
 
independently
 | 
independently
 1866 1869 1872 |  | 
independently
 1859 1860 1861 |  
  
 
of
 | 
of
 1866 1869 1872 |  | 
of
 1859 1860 1861 |  
  
 
their
 | 
their
 1866 1869 1872 |  | 
their
 1859 1860 1861 |  
  
 
fertility
.  | 
fertility
.  1869 |  | 
fertility
.—
 1859 1860 1861 |  | 
fertility
.
 1866 |  | 
fertility
.  1872 |  
  
 | 
 Independently of the question of fertility, the offspring of species when crossed 
and of varieties when crossed may be compared in several other respects.  Gärtner, whose strong wish was 
to draw a marked 
line of distinction 
between species and varieties, could find very few 
and, as it seems to me, quite unimportant differences between the so-called hybrid offspring of species, and the so-called mongrel offspring of varieties.  And, on the other hand, they agree most closely in 
 ..| ..... 1866 1869 1872 |  | very 1859 1860 1861 |  
  
many important respects.  | 
 | 
 I shall here discuss this subject with extreme brevity.  The most important distinction is, that in the first generation mongrels are more variable than hybrids; but Gärtner admits that hybrids from species which have long been cultivated are often variable in the first generation; and I have myself seen striking instances of this fact.  Gärtner further admits that hybrids between very closely allied species are more variable than those from very distinct species; and this shows that the difference in the degree of variability graduates away.  When mongrels and the more fertile hybrids are propagated for several 
 generations, | generations, 1869 1872 |  | generations 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  
  
an extreme amount of variability in 
 the | the 1869 1872 |  | their 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  
  
offspring 
 in both cases is | in both cases is 1869 1872 |  
| is 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  
  
notori- ous; 
but some few 
 instances of both | instances of both 1869 1872 |  
| cases both of 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  
  
hybrids and mongrels long retaining 
 a uniform | a uniform 1869 1872 |  | uniformity of 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  
  
character could be given.  The variability, however, in the successive generations of mongrels is, perhaps, greater than in hybrids.  | 
 | 
 This greater variability 
 in | in 1869 1872 |  | of 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  
  
mongrels than 
 in | in 1869 1872 |  | of 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  
  
hybrids does not seem 
 ..| ..... 1869 1872 |  | to me 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  
  
at all surprising.  For the parents of mongrels are varieties, and mostly domestic varieties (very few experiments having been tried on natural 
 | 
 
  
  
 
Hybrids
 | 
Hybrids
 1859 1860 1861 |  | 
Hybrids
 1866 1869 1872 |  
  
 
and
 | 
and
 1859 1860 1861 |  | 
and
 1866 1869 1872 |  
  
 
Mongrels
 | 
Mongrels
 1859 1860 1861 |  | 
Mongrels
 1866 1869 1872 |  
  
 
compared
,
 | 
compared
,
 1861 |  
| 
compared,
 1859 1860 |  
| 
compared,
 1866 1869 |  
| 
compared
,
 1872 |  
  
 
independently
 | 
independently
 1859 1860 1861 |  | 
independently
 1866 1869 1872 |  
  
 
of
 | 
of
 1859 1860 1861 |  | 
of
 1866 1869 1872 |  
  
 
their
 | 
their
 1859 1860 1861 |  | 
their
 1866 1869 1872 |  
  
 
fertility
.—
 | 
fertility
.—
 1859 1860 1861 |  | 
fertility
.
 1866 |  | 
fertility
.  1869 |  | 
fertility
.  1872 |  
  
 | 
 Independently of the question of fertility, the offspring of species 
 when crossed | when crossed 1859 1860 1861 1866 1869 |  when crossed 1872 |  
  
and of varieties when crossed may be compared in several other respects.  Gärtner, whose strong wish 
 it was | it was 1861 1866 1869 1872 |  | was 1859 1860 |  
  
to draw a 
 distinct | distinct 1861 1866 1869 1872 |  | marked 1859 1860 |  
  
line 
 ..| ..... 1861 1866 1869 1872 |  | of distinction 1859 1860 |  
  
between species and varieties, could find very 
 few, | few, 1861 1866 1869 1872 |  | few 1859 1860 |  
  
and, as it seems to me, quite unimportant differences between the so-called hybrid offspring of species, and the so-called mongrel offspring of varieties.  And, on the other hand, they agree most closely in 
 very | very 1859 1860 1861 |  very 1866 1869 1872 |  
  
many important respects.  | 
 | 
 I shall here discuss this subject with extreme brevity.  The most important distinction is, that in the first generation mongrels are more variable than hybrids; but Gärtner admits that hybrids from species which have long been cultivated are often variable in the first generation; and I have myself seen striking instances of this fact.  Gärtner further admits that hybrids between very closely allied species are more variable than those from very distinct species; and this shows that the difference in the degree of variability graduates away.  When mongrels and the more fertile hybrids are propagated for several 
 generations | generations 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  | generations, 1869 1872 |  
  
an extreme amount of variability in 
 their | their 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  | the 1869 1872 |  
  
offspring 
 is | is 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  
| in both cases is 1869 1872 |  
  
 notorious; | notorious; 1860 1861 1866 1869 1872 |  | notori- ous; 1859 |  
  
but some few 
 cases both of | cases both of 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  
| instances of both 1869 1872 |  
  
hybrids and mongrels long retaining 
 uniformity of | uniformity of 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  | a uniform 1869 1872 |  
  
character could be given.  The variability, however, in the successive generations of mongrels is, perhaps, greater than in hybrids.  | 
 | 
 This greater variability 
 of | of 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  | in 1869 1872 |  
  
mongrels than 
 of | of 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  | in 1869 1872 |  
  
hybrids does not seem 
 to me | to me 1859 1860 1861 1866 |  to me 1869 1872 |  
  
at all surprising.  For the parents of mongrels are varieties, and mostly domestic varieties (very few experiments having been tried on natural 
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